Ok. This thread is in response to a discussion that started in the purchase thread. LINK Why is it that Sony seems to get a pass for everything, yet Microsoft gets bashed for everything. People seem to view Sony as this company that truly isn't after your wallet. News flash. All gaming companies want your money. There is no argument around this. They need money to continue, you have the money, and they want it. I just don't get the labels that are out on different gaming companies. Sony as of late has been viewed as the good guy. Even though they came out arrogant when the PS3 launched and it hurt them badly. Had they continued with the inclusion of backwards compatibility and at a 5-600 dollar price point, they would've lost the console war to the 360 and Wii. They packed way too much stuff into the PS3 and it almost cost them. They were losing money on each console sold. Microsoft seemed to make the same mistake Sony did with the PS3 with this generation of gaming with being arrogant that gamers would buy their Xbox One console just on brand loyalty. They were wrong and had to make adjustments to what the fans wanted. Now that the console is still in stock on shelves, some are stating that the Xbox One is failing. Then people bring up the price of Gold and state that things shouldn't be included with Gold (like Netflix, Skype, etc.). An Xbox One without Gold is useless IMO. Same for PS4 without PS Plus. Nintendo seems to be viewed as the joke as of late with the Wii U. I honestly can't speak on this console because I don't own it. Though some of the titles have me interested. Though they are bashed for lack of achievements/trophies, friend codes (I believe there is a Nintendo ID now), lack of games. All three of the big console companies have their faults when it comes to their consoles. Sony: Releases a ton of HD remastered titles Now charges for online Will charge more for a digital rental system Has a camera too (doesn't get bashed because it's not included to raise price) Release too many God of War and Uncharted games Microsoft: Has accessories for everything (at least with the 360 when it first launched it did) Xbox Live Gold is apparently evil Release too many Halo games and Gears of War titles Xbox One is a hundred dollars more than the PS4, despite the PS4 being more powerful. Nintendo Friend codes are despised Rely too much on Mario and Zelda No trophies or achievements No hardcore games At the end of the day gamers seem to choose what game console is best for them. But it's gotten to the point where gamers now attempt to bash one another for owning a specific console. We all play games, stop complaining to one another for choices and sit back and enjoy the console or consoles that you own. If you didn't make the purchase for a reason that's great, but each of these consoles offers things that the other doesn't. For example the PS4 is flat out more powerful than the Xbox One. It is catered more towards gamers in general (hence why mine is in my gameroom). The Xbox One is more of an all in one device that is meant to take over your living room since it does a little bit of everything (hence why mine is in my living room). The Wii U is more for the casual crowd in some aspects, but apparently the console has a great library on the way that will cater to the hardcore gamers out there. My point to this rant is this. Choose what console is right for you. Play your games, and have fun. Stop focusing on useless crap about a console you have no interest in. I remember when videogames used to be about just enjoying the games you owned and not "My console is the best, I hate yours because of this this and this". When I bought my PS4 and Xbox One I wasn't thinking "Oh I hope they don't do some of the things that might cost me more money." Gaming companies are always gonna release stuff down the line to get some more money. I was thinking "Hell yes, PS4 in the gameroom and Xbox One in the living room, I am set gaming wise for this generation. Time to play some damn games". Please keep this thread civilized. I'm looking for a friendly discussion about the consoles on the market right now.